beholdmydemons | twelfth fusion - text (backdated to 4/17)

twelfth fusion - text (backdated to 4/17)

Far be it from me to turn down a challenge you miserable runt. [....Well, that's...promising.]

Here friends, what do you think of this? There's no such thing as birthright that's recognized by nature, and it's a notion the weak use as a trick to keep themselves in power they didn't earn. To hear a person claiming they're you're better when it's clear they're helpless on their own, that's plain foolishness, isn't it? And yet there's worlds where such ineffectual men are kings and the people are made to believe that it's natural and just for the throne to grant power alone. And they suffer for it because when the king is weak he must resort to underhanded means to ensure nobody's more powerful than him.

But that doesn't have a damn thing to do with this world because it doesn't work like that here. So who else thinks that anyone who crows about their title in this world is only fooling themselves? Pokemon give power where it's earned by effort or skill. Where it's not, the unfit can't rise to where anyone would suffer beneath them. And the rest of us are free to show them their natural place when they think their hollow claims to good breeding make them any better than another. A place in a pool, for example.

[...That should probably offer a clue to what this unabashed craziness is about, if the fact that it goes up about ten minutes after a post from Saionji doesn't give it enough context. I'm...I'm sorry, guys.]

[[ooc:

bertall will be hosting the Totodile/Skorupi/Joltik egg post tonight - thanks, Danny!]]

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[CAN WE GET AN AMEN, THOUGH]

Yes, exactly - this sort of thing is what I've been saying for years! Not about the state of things here, obviously, though I've been insisting on that as well, but about the way things should ideally be - power and rewards should be granted to those who work for it, not those who were simply gifted to it in one way or another! Those who take power they didn't earn are the weakest of all, in the end, and nothing awaits them but their eventual downfall the instant things fail to work in their favor!

[...Well now...uh. Time to fish for context.]

...Did I miss something?

Oh hey. It's not much to do with her but have you met that harpy Saionji?

[what is class and tact can you eat them]

[Oh look. It's almost like someone is addressing Greed here even though he knows it isn't about him.

He's still going to call himself the Ultimate Shield even if he doesn't have that ability, thank you very much.]

You know, I really haven't been around here long enough to get much of a foothold in this world, but I do know that threatening one's world belief, especially in a public form where strangers can look in, never has quite the desired results.

[......yo holy shit]

I think you put it better than I did. You're not a person I'd have thought to hear that from but I am glad to hear it. [Let's just not go into why because that way lies alignments and madness.] Is it a problem in your world as well?

Edited 2014-04-19 01:42 (UTC)

Enough for me to make "fixing the state of things" into my life's work! I have personal experience with witnessing a downfall like that as well, and I don't care to do it again!

What prompted this, though? Was it something to do with Saionji-kun?

If it goes poorly and I throw a fit then I'd be a hypocrite right? What wins out wins out.

Besides I did it on a challenge. It's for that before any threat.

That's true. Mostly I'm interested in seeing how the person you called out reacts.

Be careful with falling prey to challenges, though. Sometimes the other party involved just really wants to see you squirm. That's assuming they're smart enough for that sort of manipulation, of course. If they're not, carry on.

[...personal...experience. Man, should he ask...?]

Her usual bluster. So she asked, so I did. If it's in my favor she'll see she's wrong. So it goes in a true world! And though it's not a problem that's foremost here, it's one I can't bring myself to abandon. I imagine her Pokemon suffer with her as a master, for one.

I've never met ineffectual kings before, whether their title came from birth or merit, and I know plenty of them. But a throne, or its closest equivalent in a country without a monarchy, does grant great power, if only the power to make people listen to you before they complain about a change in tax laws. Not that it matters at all in this world, indeed. Here one can see children outbattle high-ranking adults with ease.

Believe you me I'm not the one who's squirming here. [...Not that he's wrong, though. Walter is ordinarily pretty bad about taking the bait.]

But that's just the thing. If the person who holds that power isn't fit as a person to be followed, then the people suffer for it. That someone can hold that kind of power for no good reason is what I'm talking about. It may be that way, but it shouldn't be.

Honestly I'm interested in hearing what sort of world you come from that you would talk about ineffectual kings and good breeding. Or, really, what sort of world this person you've having a dispute with is from, too.

In my own experience there are two types of people. Those with the power and those without. And the ones without are either too weak to grab the power or struggling to grab it.

You can say we're in a world where these things don't matter, but ultimately we're a product of the worlds we lived in and a bunch of colorful monsters and packed lunches isn't exactly going to change that.

If the king happens to not be fit and cause suffering to his people, he simply needs to replaced. A talented recognized heir is ideal, as those come with pre-existing popular acknowledgement and stability, but a more violent change can do in a pinch.

[He says it so simply only because his own unfit king turned out to be a fake. Makes killing him much easier.]

[...Oh. That girl. He doesn't even know her all that well besides the fact that she called him an idiot just for requesting a little guidance, but...]

Yeah, I have. She...didn't exactly make the best first impression.

Hell if I know where she's from but she thinks she's better than everyone. And I'm from a world that's plagued by this problem. Weak leaders that stomp down the people in each and every land. I won't be returning to it but I'd like to keep that foolishness out of this world however I can.

She spews shit from the wrong end. Don't pay her any mind.

She's one of the kinds of people I spoke of and she claimed others wouldn't agree with what I was telling her so I took her up on it.

What's worse: a weak leader or a tyrant?

I've seen firsthand what an effective leader can do. There's no such thing as a "noble" leader. The only effective leader is a ruthless one.

[But then again, militarized society.]

If it's any consolation, I'm not sure such a system would even work in a place that doesn't even have weapons. It's a safe place if only because of technological stagnation.

Edited 2014-04-19 02:29 (UTC)

They're the same thing. A truly strong leader doesn't need to be a tyrant because other people know they're worth following.

I disagree.

The type of person you're suggesting is a fairy tale. Pretty on paper but they don't exist in the real world.

The only leaders that truly exists are the ones who incites obedience out of fear.

[Not that he's speaking from personal experience or anything.]

Of course, the moment that leader incites enough fear to incite riots against him, he's lost his footing as effective and will be replaced by someone who is.

...She likes seeing others suffer. Her Pokémon probably aren't an exception to that.

Exactly. The problem comes when that kind of change is... [...how does he even begin to put this.] ...quashed in the way that keeps it from ever being thought of. You sound like you know a lot about kings, but it's the people who don't know enough who remain suffering.

[Hopefully that makes sense because if there's a word for this Walter couldn't begin to guess at it.]

Somehow I'm not surprised.

[...And that kind of hurts to hear, because Walter may not think Pokemon are people but he sympathizes with Pokemon or demons or whatever else is caught in a situation like that with its choices limited.]

I hope that they realize better and eat her someday, I really do. There's little more repulsive than doing cruelty to something that can't or won't resist you.

[And something in that strikes him wrong, and it takes him a moment to reply.]

I wouldn't be surprised if she's bitten one day, at least, but I don't know if I'd want more than that. I don't wish death on others.

[...uh.]

You're plain wrong on that because I've met such a leader myself. The kind you're talking about will always die like an animal but better people meet their death without regrets.

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